Virginia Ironside’s Comments on Sunday Morning Live


Yesterday, Virginia Ironside made comments on Sunday Morning Live (on the BBC) that she would smother a disabled child.  She said she would be the first to do so and that any good mother would.  You can see the video here but it may be upsetting to some.

Her take is that it’s a moral thing and that it’s to be done to prevent suffering.  She does then go on to say that there are millions of disabled people who live “Marvellous” lives but there are also thousands of millions who are suffering and not live no kind of life.

She’d do it to a child she really loved and she doesn’t know any mother wouldn’t.  I personally am very glad that according to Ms Ironside’s views my own mother can’t love me and must be a terrible mother.

I was very pleased to see that the other guests had a differing view of the matter.  Although I am not religious I was pleased to hear the “fearfully and wonderfully made” Bible quote used to show that all people are people regardless of disability.

One of the key points that Ms Ironside has missed is about acquired disabilities.  Is she suggesting that adults who become disabled (or children who become disabled rather than being born disabled) should be smothered?  It’s not what she said but it’s the next logical step – and as scary as suggesting disabled children be smothered.

On Twitter yesterday, Nicky Clark posted the following spread over several tweets.

The T4 euthanasia programme began because two nazi parents approached Hitler to seek permission to have their child killed why? because the child was severely disabled.They expanded it we would say rolled it out in modern parlance to include other groups. They took mobile gas vans to institutions and got the proportions just right.Some parents refused to have their children taken others were told their Children were being treated to help their condition. They were all murdered. For an ideology- for the good of the whole. So if I get very angry and sweary when an ignorant woman argues for cleansing for murder that’s why. Lest we forget.

It was difficult reading but a useful reminder that we must continue to fight and not let our guard down.

If something like this was suggested for any group other than disabled people there would be outrage.  Virginia Ironside would never have made those comments about gay people or people who aren’t white.  Saying that about disabled people isn’t OK.

Millions lost their lives to fight against the Nazis and their policies.  Comments like this belittle the sacrifices so many made as well as the lives of millions of disabled people.  Lest we forget, indeed.

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8 Responses to Virginia Ironside’s Comments on Sunday Morning Live

  1. samedifference1 says:

    I saw Nicky’s comments and wondered what she was Tweeting about as I didn’t see the TV show. Advantages of a group blog and all that.

    WHO ON EARTH IS THIS NUTCASE?!

    PS. I, too, have ‘terrible’ parents who would do no such thing. Obviously they don’t love me then.

  2. Mary says:

    That clip really is horrifying. I clicked on it earlier today, naively thinking that after all the Dorries palaver it couldn’t be that bad. After a couple of minutes I was shaking with rage – I think the only thing that stopped me from bursting into tears was the fact that there were four people in that room and while one of them was being unspeakably vile, the other three were totally jaw-dropped. Even the striving-for-impartiality presenter.

    And then she seemed shocked that she was being disagreed with.

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  4. I didn’t see the show either. I knew something had been said yesterday because of twitter and then this morning someone (either Scope or Disability Now) tweeted the video link.

    I wanted to add more to this but ran out of time. I’m glad you think my response acceptable.

  5. Robert says:

    Well my wife was born in 1948 with Spina Bifida, doctors wanted her mother father to allow her to die, in fact they told the family when a child like this is born they normally die anyway. But the family said no they take her as she was, then she under went surgery, she started to walk at five went to school at nine. She worked most of her working life brought up two children and now we are brining up two grand kids.

    She is always on the go, of course her spina bifida does and always has affected her, but when we checked we found out that before the NHS children born with disabilities like this would be normally left to die.

    They found my wife in a dish on a table in a cold room the idea was she pass away cold seems cruel now, but it was just the thing they did .

  6. Macbeth says:

    Traditionally anyone threatening to kill their own children would have been sectioned as mentally ill, which is a form of disability. Thus by her own criteria this ridiculous woman should have been smothered at birth. QED

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